{"id":125,"date":"2020-01-16T23:59:31","date_gmt":"2020-01-16T21:59:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/?p=125"},"modified":"2020-04-17T23:22:04","modified_gmt":"2020-04-17T22:22:04","slug":"calculer-le-gain-dun-ampli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/2020\/01\/16\/calculer-le-gain-dun-ampli\/","title":{"rendered":"Calculer le gain d&rsquo;un ampli"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour calculer le gain d&rsquo;un ampli, on va avoir besoin de deux informations, le signal d&rsquo;entr\u00e9e et le signal de sortie de l&rsquo;ampli \u00e0 mesurer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On va donc se servir de la formule du gain 20*LOG(US\/UE).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Pour une mesure au multim\u00e8tre : <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il faut g\u00e9n\u00e9rer un signal \u00e0 50\/60hz pour que le signal soit lu par le multim\u00e8tre ( fr\u00e9quence secteur ).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Avec Audacity :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"149\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-1024x149.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-1024x149.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-300x44.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-768x112.png 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-1536x223.png 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"340\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60-1024x340.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60-1024x340.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60-300x100.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60-768x255.png 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60-1536x510.png 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-Sin-60.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila-1024x163.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-149\" width=\"930\" height=\"148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila-1024x163.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila-300x48.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila-768x122.png 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila-1536x245.png 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-voila.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 930px) 100vw, 930px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Une fois le signal g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9, on le lit et on mesure<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pour une mesure sur un c\u00e2ble XLR, il faut prendre un c\u00e2ble sym\u00e9trique !<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-normal-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Entr\u00e9 d&rsquo;amplis ( donc sortie de carte son ) :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_221347-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-150\" width=\"380\" height=\"500\"\/><figcaption>Sortie de carte son en RCA<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\">Pour du XLR il faut prendre entre le point chaud et le point froid<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-153\" width=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green-160x160.jpg 160w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/XLRConnectorPinoutDiagramRearPin2Hotv2green-320x320.jpg 320w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><figcaption>XLR vue du c\u00f4t\u00e9 soudure<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232519-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-161\" width=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232519-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232519-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232519-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232519-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232519-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sortie :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232447-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-162\" width=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232447-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232447-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232447-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232447-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/IMG_20200112_232447-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Avez la formule du gain, sur cet ampli on a donc un gain de 20*LOG(8.75\/0.139) = 35.97<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L&rsquo;ampli a un gain de 35.97 db<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Pour une mesure \u00e0 l&rsquo;oscilloscope :<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On g\u00e9n\u00e8re maintenant un signal 1Khz comme expliqu\u00e9 plus haut<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"149\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-1024x149.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-1024x149.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-300x44.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-768x112.png 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1-1536x223.png 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-generer-1.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"340\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-1000-1024x340.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-1000-1024x340.png 1024w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-1000-300x100.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-1000-768x255.png 768w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-1000-1536x510.png 1536w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Audacity-1000.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On mesure en entr\u00e9e et en sortie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En faisant bien attention, parfois la terre est reli\u00e9e sur un p\u00f4le de sortie de l&rsquo;ampli et la masse de l&rsquo;oscilloscope y est aussi, donc si on se trompe c&rsquo;est court-circuit de la sortie de l&rsquo;ampli et =&gt; BOOM. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exp\u00e9rience v\u00e9cue sur un ampli clone de labgruppen en utilisant deux voies de mon oscillo, r\u00e9sultat ma console avec une piste cram\u00e9e et un processeur dont le DAC a fum\u00e9. Comme c&rsquo;\u00e9tait en CC, j&rsquo;avais le droit au c\u00e2ble qui tremble sous le courant d&rsquo;appel ainsi que la gaine dans le mur et une jolie chute de tension dans mon appartement qui donnait un effet disco \u00e0 mes plafonniers &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Entr\u00e9e :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint2.png 800w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint2-300x180.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint2-768x461.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sortie : <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint1.png 800w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint1-300x180.png 300w, https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/DS1Z_QuickPrint1-768x461.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Comme tout \u00e0 l&rsquo;heure avec la formule : 20*LOG(9.34\/0.154) = 35.7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Une diff\u00e9rence de 0.3db est constat\u00e9e entre les deux mesures, ces mesures sont faites sur de faibles tensions ( \u00e0 cause de l&rsquo;ampli que j&rsquo;utilise en 12V ).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lors de mesure sur de plus gros amplis avec une tension d&rsquo;entr\u00e9e de l\u2019ordre de 1V environ et avec plus de 42V en sortie ( Gain de 32db ), la diff\u00e9rence entre les deux mesures \u00e9tait encore plus r\u00e9duite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et pour l&rsquo;exemple :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Une diff\u00e9rence de 0.3db sur des subs de 3000W sous 4 ohms, sur le calcul du limiteur provoquerait une \u00ab\u00a0suramplification\u00a0\u00bb de 160W. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sur des subs de 600W sous 8ohms, la \u00ab\u00a0suramplification\u00a0\u00bb serait de 30w.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La \u00ab\u00a0suramplification\u00a0\u00bb est tr\u00e8s l\u00e9g\u00e8re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La calculatrice de limiteur impose d\u00e9j\u00e0 un facteur de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, mais si vous \u00eates craintif, faites -0.5db sur votre limiteur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">N&rsquo;achetez pas un oscilloscope juste pour mesurer le gain d&rsquo;un ampli&#8230; Un bon multim\u00e8tre pr\u00e9cis devrait r\u00e9duire la diff\u00e9rence que j&rsquo;ai entre ces deux mesures.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pour calculer le gain d&rsquo;un ampli, on va avoir besoin de deux informations, le signal d&rsquo;entr\u00e9e et le signal de sortie de l&rsquo;ampli \u00e0 mesurer. On va donc se servir de la formule du gain 20*LOG(US\/UE). Pour une mesure au&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":162,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-125","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sonorisation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/125","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=125"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/125\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":348,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/125\/revisions\/348"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/162"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=125"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=125"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.xoofer.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=125"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}